For those of us who don’t like being ripped off (and who does, exactly?) the thought of PayPal’s fees are a good reason not to use the service. However I (residing in the United Kingdom) currently have a need to pay an individual in France €100 (say, for sake of argument, I’m buying off eBay or renting a holiday villa) and have limited options:
- Pay my bank £10 for a SWIFT transfer – (since €100 is approx £78, that’s a hefy commission!)
- Spend 3 days trying to count up the fees I (or the recipient) would pay with PayPal – 3.5% standard fee, assuming a minimum additional 3.5% for the currency exchange (on top of whatever exchange rate they decide to use?) and possibly a cross-border fee as well?
- Use another service like TransferWise.com – this is cheap (£1 for my transaction) and paid into the recipient’s bank account, but as this is not a direct bank transfer I’m not clear if the purchase protection I would otherwise receive still applies, so a bit of a risk there.
I normally use fee-free credit/debit cards (like Halifax Clarity or Supercard) to avoid foreign exchange fees, but using PayPal in the past I thought the only option was to use a UK Sterling card and let PayPal convert into Euros, meaning you’re subject to even more extortionate fees than your bank will charge! However, despite PayPal’s needlessly over-complicated fee structure I’m thinking it is the way to go here as I think I can discount both the currency exchange and cross-border fees.
Firstly, the easy one: PayPal have a small note at the bottom of their “Cross Border Fees” table which states:
“Cross Border Euro or Swedish Krona payments made between Accounts registered in the European Union or EEA will be treated as Domestic Payments for the purpose of applying Fees.”
Happy days? Now about that foreign exchange fee… I’ve learned that it is possible to get PayPal to bill my fee-free card in Euros, hopefully eliminating another chunky fee. The remaining 3.5% standard fee is clearly more than double the TransferWise fee, but I figure it’s worth it for the added protection (provided by the site I’m buying through, not by PayPal – although there is that too).
Getting PayPal to bill you in your own currency is not easy, but can be done. All the guides I found explained how to do it on the old site, which has now been replaced. The same legacy page is still there and active, and still used within your account, but finding it is even harder than it was before. So here’s what you need to do:
- Login to your account summary
- Click the settings/cog icon in the top right, to take you to your “Profile”.
- Scroll down and select Pre-approved payments in the Payment settings section.
- Select Set Available Funding Sources in the top-right of the table
- You’ll see a list of your bank accounts and cards, with a Conversion Options link for each Visa/Mastercard (sorry, this option isn’t available for Amex for some reason). Choose the link for the card you want to use.
- You’ll now be presented with 2 options: Use PayPal’s conversion process and Bill me in the currency listed on the seller’s invoice. If you select the latter your card will be charged in whatever currency the seller uses at whatever rate your card issuer decides (which, if you have the right card, should be far better than PayPal’s)
- Submit and repeat as necessary.
With thanks to dancedar at HotUKDeals and also to Australian frequent-flyer site, PointHacks, who provided the original instructions for the old PayPal site. This post reflects my experience and is provided for information only. Nothing whatsoever in it should be considered, taken or used as financial advice.
Hey,
Do you have any recommendations for a good UK bank conversion for this. I have a Halifax Clarity but I think I can only withdraw to a Bank account.
Thanks
Ed
Hi Ed
I’m not sure what you’re asking here – are you talking about a bank account to withdraw your paypal funds to? Pretty much any UK account should let you do this, but which ones best is very dependent on your circumstances so I can’t really give a general answer. I would advise checking out Money Saving Expert though.